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 No markings on M1A barrel...is it factory?
cms81586  [Team Member]
9/10/2007 3:36:58 PM EST
If you were looking on the other thread I found out that my Springfield Armory M1A was built in 1985 and is a Super Match. I didn't even know the Super Match was built this early and was wondering if any owners of early samples of this rifle can help me out. Were the barrels marked by Springfield Armory? Mine does not hav any markings but I was told the rifle is all original. Can anyone help me here?

CMS
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fxntime  [Team Member]
9/10/2007 3:54:27 PM EST
Did you take off the top handguard and look there? Bout 4 inches in front of the receiver.
Different  [Member]
9/10/2007 7:39:14 PM EST
Douglas was the most common barrel blank used for the Super Match M1A. See my reply to your other post.
cms81586  [Team Member]
9/11/2007 3:56:42 AM EST
Yes I looked and didn't see anything there either.
Homeinvader  [Team Member]
9/11/2007 6:38:17 AM EST
SA does not make barrels and to the best of my knowledge, never has. Douglas and Kreiger have been used on the Super Match and Wilson chrome-molys on the lesser grades.

I do not believe any M1A barrel is ever marked with the barrel maker info, but most are marked somewhere with "Springfield Armory, Geneseo, IL"
cms81586  [Team Member]
9/11/2007 10:55:11 AM EST
So it's possible that a barrel with no markings what so ever...even marked S/A ... is still a factory rifle.
Different  [Member]
9/11/2007 4:51:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By cms81586:
So it's possible that a barrel with no markings what so ever...even marked S/A ... is still a factory rifle.


Yes.
SteelonSteel  [Member]
9/11/2007 5:51:29 PM EST
I vaguely remember in the 80's they had Hart and Douglas as barrel options on the super grade in their catalog. Nothing but my watery grey matter to support that though.
cms81586  [Team Member]
9/12/2007 4:11:48 AM EST
I wish there was a way to tell...not that it matters much since it shoots like a dream...but still.
TNROBOCOP  [Team Member]
9/12/2007 8:23:56 AM EST
I have an original Springfield Armory catalog and pricing list in front of me from 1981 that lists that the M1A-A1, Standard, National Match and Super Match all available.

The Super Match Heavy barrel price (P/N SA104) was - $180.00
The National Match barrel (P/N SA103) was - $ 114.00
The Standard barrel (P/N 7791362) was - $90

Hope this helps.

cms81586  [Team Member]
9/12/2007 9:24:30 AM EST

Originally Posted By TNROBOCOP:
I have an original Springfield Armory catalog and pricing list in front of me from 1981 that lists that the M1A-A1, Standard, National Match and Super Match all available.

The Super Match Heavy barrel price (P/N SA104) was - $180.00
The National Match barrel (P/N SA103) was - $ 114.00
The Standard barrel (P/N 7791362) was - $90

Hope this helps.



How much was the complete supermatch in 81? Thanks!

CMS
TNROBOCOP  [Team Member]
9/12/2007 7:33:55 PM EST
It doesn't say. They said in the ad that full rifle prices would not be listed due to differences in markets or something like that. I will check further and see if I can find anything else. It's in a big binder along with a bunch of articles from the 80's about the M1A/M14 clones.
TNROBOCOP  [Team Member]
9/12/2007 8:00:24 PM EST
I just found them. I had a price list dated 1/1/1978. It also says that it is the year they introduced the Supermatch.

Pricing:
Standard: $420
Match Grade: $540
Super Match: $650

It also goes on to say about the new Super Match:

"The differences between a Super Match M1A and a Match M1A"

- 20 oz. added weight to the barrel
- Special select premium barrel
- Better holding qualities
- Less distoration from heat
- Less barrel vibration

"Now available after nearly two years of development, Springfield Armory introduces a revolutionary new barrel.

We've utilized a radical new barrel manufacturing process - the barrel blank is never between centers while being turned. This eliminated the necessity for the barrel to be straightened after machining, producig a more accurate and stronger barrel.

Also, very important are the inside dimensions of the Springfield Arrmory barrel. We've incorporated a new, one turn in 11 inches twist, holding our bore tolerances to .0002 - half the government's M14 specification requirments."

Hope this is useful.
Different  [Member]
9/12/2007 9:42:08 PM EST
Springfield Armory, Inc. has offered the Krieger barrel on its M21 and M25 models. The M21 was introduced in 1990 and the M25 in 2001.

The Super Match M1A has been offered with the Douglas barrel as standard and Hart barrel as an option. The Hart barrel is not an option today but was for many years. In the 1980s those were the choices of barrel for the Super Match M1A. I just have not found any reference that states Krieger as a barrel option in the 1970s or 1980s. A M14 gunsmith or former military armorer may be able to identify the barrel make, Douglas or Hart, by looking at it.

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